By now, the episode of comedian Daniel Tosh making rape jokes has circulated the world 50 times over, and has drawn critiques from two different camps: the "it's just comedy, lighten up" camp, and the "some things should never be joked about ever" camp.
As for me, I never had a high opinion of the guy to begin with. I've learned to have very, very low expectations for 90% of the world's celebrities because, let's face it, most of them are good only for entertaining us. Few of them are lauded for making the world a better place. I've only watched half an episode of Tosh.0 because I was bored one evening and decided to flip some channels. I watched for a few minutes and thought "Okay, so he's just a low-grade, stereotypical frat boy humor kind of comedian." I never thought about the show again until an article featured on the Got Consent? Facebook page tipped me off.
Since then, I've been thinking about the nature of comedy itself: why do we tell oppressive jokes? A better question: why do we find oppressive jokes funny?
I'm a firm believer in being able to make fun of one's self. Sometimes, that includes poking fun at certain cultural and/or ethnic groups. In general, I don't see anything wrong with that (so long as the person making the joke actually belongs to said culture/ethnic group). I think there are tasteful ways to use humor to promote social examination of serious issues. That being said, there are some lines that should not be crossed when it comes to comedy. When the end result of a joke is further oppression, and further promotion of already existing stereotypes, the joke is no longer funny. It's cruel.
But before you go on to accuse me of stomping on the First Amendment, consider the effect that rape jokes, like those made by Daniel Tosh, have on a society that is already poisoned by rape culture. It's very similar to the reason it's generally frowned upon to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
For those who haven't already heard, here is what happened: Tosh makes a series of generalizing comments about rape jokes being hilarious. A woman in the crowd is outraged, and calls him out in the middle of the show: "Actually, rape is never funny!" So Tosh fires back "Wouldn't it be hilarious if, like, five guys just raped her right now?" Maniacal laughter ensues. Needless to say, the woman who spoke up felt justifiably terrified.You may be thinking that the likelihood of a gang rape occurring in the middle of a comedy act is next to zero, but whether the threat of violence was real or not doesn't matter: the reality is, that comment was meant to "put her in her place," so to speak. And it did...the woman ran straight for the nearest exit.
Now, here are the reasons (I think) why such derogatory content is never, ever funny:
It completely trivializes a devastating, life-altering event. I don't see how making a joke about rape being hilarious is any different than saying lynch mobs or concentration camps are hilarious. This goes beyond hurting someone's feelings; it can trigger PTSD.
It promotes the stereotype that rape only happens to women. Just think for a moment what would have happened if it was a man who stood up to Tosh instead of a woman. I can only guess that there were plenty of people in the audience that night who thought "Of course a woman would find this offensive!" Something tells me that a man who stood up would have had his masculinity questioned. Because men never get assaulted (just ask Jerry Sandusky).
It could justify further violence. Just to be clear, if a woman was raped outside the set of Tosh.0, Daniel Tosh is not to be held liable. I know that words don't rape people. At the same time, a man with that kind of influence is not doing potential victims any favors by perpetuating a "She was asking for it" mentality. She interrupted a comedy show? She's "asking" to get raped. She wore a short skirt to a club? She clearly wants to get laid. She left her drink unattended? She should have known what was coming to her. There may not be direct causation between Tosh's jokes and men who go and commit rape, but there is definite correlation.
Those are just a handful of reasons why violence of any kind is completely inappropriate fodder for comedy. However, Daniel Tosh is far from being the only symptom of what is wrong with society's response to rape. Daniel Tosh made those jokes because he knew it's what his audience called for; he knew it would boost his ratings. We are the ones who created this culture where making fun of violence is okay.
So what are we going to do about it?
not a huge fan of tosh either , I had read some sort of article maybe a year or so ago about how a lot of "nerdy/ video gamer guys" have a tendency to make rape jokes and other misogynistic type jokes. A lot of it was about how guys who don't have a chance with a girl regardless of her actions is called a slut or a whore and they make jokes about that degrading them in a way.
ReplyDeleteAnd they think they get away with saying crap like that because they disguise it as a "joke" when really no one thinks it is funny unless they are a "nerdy" guy who also feels ignored by females of their own age. This was written by a guy who was a self proclaimed nerd who used to make comments like that (and realized how crappy that was and felt bad about it) and it was really interesting I know that's not totally on topic but it reminded me of it. He had also made a point to say that even if a girl did give them a chance (Which they weren't giving a lot of girls a chance themselves) they would have been too busy in their video game type world to actually keep a girl because they (and the guy writing the article included) would consider their interests number one and their girlfriend as an afterthought thinking she'd be there still after he was done playing video games/ when "he had time for her".
anyway I guess what I was trying to say is sadly not only frat boys make disgusting comments like that, supposedly "nice guy nerds" are like that too. I wish I could remember the name of that article...
good post.
Deletea lot of the beta males are just as angry as the alpha males they deride. they have been walked on professionally and they see the alphas take their girls, so they lash out. one of the ways is with the stupid misogynistic jokes about rape, girls, etc. A lot of them are also passive-aggressive. They'll be angry in private but never actually do anything to confront their issues.
IF the Betas learned how to be assertive they'd get the girls, who'd see their self-confidence w/o the cockiness. Most girls 18-30 want the Alpha male because they know he can lead the relationship. Women don't want a weak man.
Good post Jordan.
Rape culture? Rape OF culture? Video games/nerd consoles don't penetrate your asshole, Jordan. Keep "posting". The rape-culture of Seminaries including Denver's are eating your money, religion and nation.
DeleteAnonymous, Alpha and Beta males do not exist. Consideration for your anonymous condition and Jerry Sandusky's co-conspirators at the UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVSANIA and nearby locations is WHY YOU ARE ANONYMOUS. Enjoy your salad, tosser. Signed, a reader.
Sarahbeth Caplin: these older posts are readable. Start addressing these issues more carefully, they are tender and the 18-30s want to play games on consoles, etc. Signed, Michael S.